The masters · 06

Ramana Maharshi, and one question.

At sixteen he left home for a hill in South India and gave the rest of his life to one question: who am I? Most of what he taught was written down by the people who asked him. We read it in the ashram’s own editions.

8 min readBy Andrew FayadEvery line matched to the recordEvery source named

In short

  • His one practice: when a thought comes, ask who it comes to.
  • He held that the ‘I’-thought comes first, and every other thought hangs on it.
  • Psychology separates the story we tell about ourselves from the bare sense of being someone. No trial has tested his method.
  • Of four popular “Ramana quotes” we checked, one is his as written, two are reworded, and one has no source we could find.

Who Ramana Maharshi was

He was born Venkataraman on 30 December 1879 in Tiruchuzhi, a village south of Madurai in Tamil Nadu. In July 1896, at sixteen, alone in an upstairs room of his uncle’s house in Madurai, he lay down as if he were dead and asked what it is that dies. He said the fear of death left him then, for good. Six weeks later he left a note and went to Tiruvannamalai, the town at the foot of the hill Arunachala. He arrived on 1 September 1896.

He first sat in the great Arunachaleswara temple, for a time in an underground vault, the Patala Lingam, from which devotees carried him out. Then he lived on the hill: seventeen years in Virupaksha Cave, then at Skandashram, a little higher up. For the first years he barely spoke. In 1907 a Sanskrit scholar, Kavyakantha Ganapati Muni, named him Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.

His mother died in 1922 and was buried at the foot of the hill. He settled beside her shrine, and an ashram, Sri Ramanasramam, grew around it. The writer Paul Brunton’s A Search in Secret India (1934) brought visitors from the West. He died there on 14 April 1950.

What he kept coming back to

Ask who the thought comes to

He didn’t ask people to stop thinking, or to fight their thoughts. He asked them to turn round and look at who is having them. In 1902 a visitor, Sivaprakasam Pillai, put questions to him at Virupaksha Cave. Ramana answered in writing and by gesture, and Pillai later published the answers as Who Am I?

“When other thoughts arise, one should not pursue them, but should inquire: ‘To whom do they arise?’ It does not matter how many thoughts arise.”

Who Am I?, question 11, trans. T. M. P. Mahadevan

The ‘I’ comes first

In his account, every thought needs someone to have it. Take that one away and the rest has nothing to stand on.

“Of all the thoughts that arise in the mind, the ‘I’-thought is the first. It is only after the rise of this that the other thoughts arise.”

Who Am I?, question 9, trans. T. M. P. Mahadevan

Or put the bag down

Enquiry was one road. Surrender was the other, and he said both end in the same place: no separate ‘I’ left to carry anything.

“Either the thoughts are eliminated by holding on to the root-thought ‘I’ or one surrenders oneself unconditionally to the Higher Power. These are the only two ways for Realisation.”

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 321, 7 January 1937

“We know that the train carries all loads, so after getting on it why should we carry our small luggage on our head to our discomfort, instead of putting it down in the train and feeling at ease?”

Who Am I?, question 18, trans. T. M. P. Mahadevan

Happiness isn’t in the things

His argument starts from sleep. In deep sleep we have nothing and want nothing, and we wake up saying we slept well. So, he reasoned, the happiness can’t have come from what we own.

“Happiness is the very nature of the Self; happiness and the Self are not different. There is no happiness in any object of the world. We imagine through our ignorance that we derive happiness from objects.”

Who Am I?, question 24, trans. T. M. P. Mahadevan

“All wish to rush out. There is no limit to going out. Happiness lies within and not without.”

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 229, 8 July 1936, said of the ashram’s pet squirrel, waiting for its chance to run out

Silence taught more

He answered the people who came, sometimes at length. He still held that sitting in silence with them taught more than talking did.

“Oral lectures are not so eloquent as silence. Silence is unceasing eloquence.”

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 20, 30 January 1935, to W. Y. Evans-Wentz

Where the psychology meets it

Psychology has long kept two kinds of self apart. William James, in 1890, separated the “Me” we can describe, our body, roles and reputation, from the “I” that does the knowing. Recent work separates a narrative self, the story that runs across the years, from a minimal self, the bare sense of being someone now. Ramana’s ‘I’-thought sits close to that line.

The two can be pulled apart with practice. In a 2007 brain-imaging study, people who had done eight weeks of mindfulness training could shift from a story-telling focus on themselves to a moment-by-moment one, and the brain activity changed with it. That study trained mindfulness. It shows the two selves can come apart. It doesn’t test his method.

We found no controlled trial of self-enquiry. The one direct finding is a caution. In a 2024 survey of 613 meditators, those who contemplated a question like “Who am I?” reported more unusual, psychosis-like experiences, as well as more mystical ones. A survey can’t show that the practice caused them. We’d still want to know it before going deep alone.

Carl Jung was in India in 1937 and 1938 and chose not to go to Tiruvannamalai. In 1944 he wrote about Ramana anyway, in an introduction to Heinrich Zimmer’s German book of his teaching.

In the Psychology Library: Self-concept clarity · Narrative identity · Rumination

Lines that aren’t his

Lines shared under his name, checked against the talks and books.

  1. “Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.”

    Reworked
    Where it’s from
    Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 20, 30 January 1935, a conversation with W. Y. Evans-Wentz.
    What the source says
    Realisation of the Self is the greatest help that can be rendered to humanity.
    What changed
    “Help to humanity” became “service to the world”, and the line turned to speak to the reader. The idea is his.
  2. “There is no greater mystery than this, that we keep seeking reality though in fact we are reality.”

    Reworked
    Where it’s from
    Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 146, 26 January 1936.
    What the source says
    There is no greater mystery than this - viz., ourselves being the Reality we seek to gain Reality.
    What changed
    Smoothed into modern English. The meaning holds, and the full passage is below, under Beyond the research.
  3. “Happiness is your nature. It is not wrong to desire it. What is wrong is seeking it outside when it is inside.”

    No source found
    Where it’s from
    Not in Who Am I?, Talks, Maharshi’s Gospel or Be As You Are, which we searched in full.
    What the source says
    The nearest real line, Talks, Talk 540: Our essential nature is happiness.
    What changed
    The idea is close to his. Nobody sharing these exact words gives a source, and we found none. We didn’t search every book of his recorded conversations.
  4. “Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, try as you may.”

    His, as said
    Where it’s from
    A note he wrote to his mother in December 1898, at Pavalakkunru on the hill, when he wasn’t speaking. Osborne’s account.
    What the source says
    Arthur Osborne’s biography gives it word for word. The ashram’s own page has try how hard you may.
    What changed
    The words hold. The setting goes missing: he wrote it to say no to his mother, who had come to take him home.

Beyond the research

“There is no greater mystery than this - viz., ourselves being the Reality we seek to gain Reality. We think that there is something hiding our Reality and that it must be destroyed before the Reality is gained. It is ridiculous.”

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 146, 26 January 1936

He said it to a visitor asking how to practice. The next sentence in the record is a laugh at ourselves: A day will dawn when you will yourself laugh at your past efforts.

How we checked

We read Who Am I? in T. M. P. Mahadevan’s translation, and Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, recorded by Munagala Venkataramiah, both in the ashram’s own editions, and matched every line on this page to them word for word. Talks covers conversations from 1935 to 1939 and numbers and dates each one, so we give both.

Most of his teaching was written down by the people who asked him. Where a popular line traces to a later editor’s tidying, or to no record at all, we say so. Anyone with a source for a line we marked no source found can send it to us.

A question to carry

Who is it that is reading this?

Questions

What is Ramana Maharshi’s self-enquiry?

A practice of turning attention back on the one who is thinking. When a thought comes, he said, ask who it arises to, and hold to the sense of ‘I’ until the thoughts settle. He set it out in Who Am I?, answers he gave in writing to a visitor in 1902.

Where do Ramana Maharshi’s words come from?

Mostly from people who wrote them down. Who Am I? began as written answers to a visitor’s questions. The largest record is Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, conversations from 1935 to 1939 kept by Munagala Venkataramiah, an attendant at the ashram.

Where is Ramana Maharshi’s ashram?

Sri Ramanasramam is at the southern foot of Arunachala, in Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu. Virupaksha Cave and Skandashram, where he lived, are on the hill above it. The Arunachaleswara temple, where he first sat in 1896, is in the town.

Is “Happiness is your nature” a real Ramana Maharshi quote?

The idea is his, but the popular wording isn’t in Who Am I?, Talks, Maharshi’s Gospel or Be As You Are. The closest line we found is in Talks, Talk 540: “Our essential nature is happiness.”

Did Carl Jung meet Ramana Maharshi?

He chose not to. Jung was in India in 1937 and 1938 and decided against the trip to Tiruvannamalai. He wrote about Ramana in 1944, in an introduction to Heinrich Zimmer’s German book of his teaching.

Sources. Ramana Maharshi, Who Am I? (Nan Yar?), trans. T. M. P. Mahadevan, 8th ed. (Sri Ramanasramam, 2010). The ashram’s PDF.

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, recorded by Munagala S. Venkataramiah (Sri Ramanasramam, 2006). Archive copy.

Sri Ramanasramam: Timeline, the death experience, in his words, At Arunachala.

Arthur Osborne, Ramana Maharshi and the Path of Self-Knowledge, chapter 5. Online text.

C. G. Jung, “The Holy Men of India” (1944), Collected Works vol. 11. Transcription.

William James, The Principles of Psychology (1890), chapter 10. Full text.

Farb and others (2007), “Attending to the present”, Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience 2, 313 to 322. Paper.

Palmer and others (2024), PLOS ONE 19, e0309357. Paper.

This page is our reading of the sources above. It will change when they, or our readers, show us something we missed.

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